By the time I’m through with Ed, I’m am going to have him reading and posting the documents that the FBI supplied to the NAS.
“By the time I’m through with Ed, I’m am going to have him reading and posting the documents that the FBI supplied to the NAS.”
I’ll be going through the 9,600 pages of documents as soon as I receive the CD, and when time permits. I don’t expect to be posting any documents, although I assume I will be quoting from some an providing information about where the quote comes from.
But, it seems much more likely that what you will accomplish is to persuade me to stop responding to your irrelevant nonsense. It has already become pointless and tedious.
Ed
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March
12, 2011 at 2:49 pm
“But, it seems much more likely that what you will accomplish is to persuade me to stop responding to your irrelevant nonsense. It has already become pointless and tedious.”
That would be a wonderful idea. Why don’t you concentrate on your pointless and tedious book which I’m sure will be a steller best seller just your first version? The tedious, pointless, fanatical misinformation you post here dozens of times daily would be appreciated by the future buyers of your new bestseller if you invested your idle spare time to that instead of posting here.
If the book doesn’t sell you can always stack the unsold copies in your garage – it will keep the large pile of version 1 books company collecting dust in the dustbin of your “analysis”.
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March
12, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Anonymous wrote: “Why don’t you concentrate on your pointless and tedious book which I’m sure will be a steller best seller”
I’m trying, but you keep posting nonsense to which I feel a need to respond – because it’s so much fun to show you where you are totally wrong or just distorting the facts.
Remember your claim that the attack spores were covered with particles of silica glued to the spores with resin? What ever happened to that theory of yours?
Remember your claim that van der Waals forces would bind spores together in a tight mass if they weren’t kept separated by silica particles glued to the spores? I always considered that your most hilarious theory.
Remember your theory that the Russian method of weaponizing spores was to glue silica particles to spores with resin? More of the same.
Then there was your theory that the FBI was NEVER going to close the Amerithrax investigation because they needed keep it open in order to cover up some super-sophisticated and illegal bioweapons program.
Then there was the theory that the NAS was going to show your beliefs about silicon coatings to be true. Oops. The NAS committee fully agreed that it was NOT true.
Then there was the theory about how the spores were put into the letters with a hypodermic needle. Hilarious.
Then there was the theory that no lab besides a super-sophisticated bioweapons lab could produce spores that were refined to a trillion spores per gram. Oops. It turns out that THREE (3) trillion spores per gram is common for other kinds of Bacillus spores in ordinary microbiology labs.
I could go on and on. And I could probably provide actual quotes, too. Too bad I don’t have the time. I need to work on my next “stellar best seller.”
Ed
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March
12, 2011 at 4:44 pm
“The NAS committee fully agreed that it was NOT true.”
You should really read the report before making false statements.
NAS concluded the FBI provided no compelling reason for the presence of silicon and NAS COULD NOT RULE OUT silicon deliberately added as weaponization – especially in the NYP powder.
As far as van der Waals forces causing bare spores to clump. It is THE accepted model for dry spore clumping.
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/309813.pdf
n the case of anthrax, it is known that Van der Waals forces cause unprocessed spores to clump together. Large particles are not deposited efficiently in human lungs and also settle rapidly from the air. Both are undesirable properties if maximal lethality is desired. Silica powders and nanoparticles have long been used to prevent agent particles from coming close enough together for Van der Waals forces to become significant.Have you called Ms Duley yet to schedule your first long overdue therapy session? Or is she back in rehab? She is your star witness in deciding Bruce Ivins is a homicidal maniac – you 2 should get along together great.
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March 12, 2011 at 5:06 pmAnonymous wrote: “NAS concluded the FBI provided no compelling reason for the presence of silicon and NAS COULD NOT RULE OUT silicon deliberately added as weaponization – especially in the NYP powder.”
Why don’t you cite a page number if that’s in the NAS report. Here’s how citing is done:
From the NAS press release:
Silicon was present in significant amounts in the anthrax used in the letters. But the committee and FBI agree that there is no evidence that the silicon had been added as a dispersant to “weaponize” the anthrax.
Link: http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=13098
From page 68 of the NAS report:
High-resolution SEM-EDX of the Leahy and New York Post samples gave similar spatial distributions — silicon was concentrated within the spore coat, but none was detected in the exosporium were a dispersant would reside.
Link: http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=13098&page=68
Anonymous also wrote: “As far as van der Waals forces causing bare spores to clump. It is THE accepted model for dry spore clumping.”
And, yet, dry spores do NOT stick together if they have been properly dried. So, your van der Waals force theory is bunk.
Anonymous also wrote: “She is your star witness in deciding Bruce Ivins is a homicidal maniac “
No, she’s not. The diagnosis was made by Dr. David S. Irwin in early 2000, more than EIGHT YEARS before Jean Duley first met Bruce Ivins, and more than a full year before the anthrax attacks. Hopefully, Irwin’s testimony and the testimony of the counselor who called the police about Ivins’ plan to poison a young woman in June of 2000 will be made public when the Maureen Stevens v USA lawsuit is resolved.
Ed
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12, 2011 at 5:22 pm
“That would be a wonderful idea. Why don’t you concentrate on your pointless and tedious book which I’m sure will be a steller best seller just your first version? The tedious, pointless, fanatical misinformation you post here dozens of times daily would be appreciated by the future buyers of your new bestseller if you invested your idle spare time to that instead of posting here.”
I dunno. I would kind of miss grumpy ol Ed after a while, actually.
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12, 2011 at 3:35 pm
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Ed Lake said
Anonymous wrote: “Jean C. Duley… tell us again…”
Hmmm. I was about to sign off for today, but I think I should make one last comment for today:
You can fantasize all you want that Jean Duley made up the diagnosis of “homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions” even though the FACTS show that the diagnosis was made by a psychiatrist named David Irwin EIGHT YEARS before Duley ever met Ivins, but
Are you saying that you think that Duley should have let Ivins commit MASS MURDER of his co-workers in June of 2008 just because you don’t like Duley’s background?
And now you’re saying that MASS MURDER is okay if done by someone you think was innocent of a DIFFERENT MASS MURDER????
The threats Ivins made against his co-workers in June of 2008 were not made in secret. The threats were made in a group therapy session before 12 to 15 witnesses.
And the plans to kill his co-workers were confirmed when the FBI searched Ivins home and found a bullet proof vest, etc.
If you think that it’s okay for a man to plan MASS MURDER just because he hasn’t been tried and convicted of his previous MASS MURDER, then you guys really need to have your heads examined.
Ed
Ed Lake said
What was DXer suggesting when he distorted the facts with this statement:
“Most anyone would be homicidal if the FBI were going to test his semen on panties and call his family”
Source: http://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/index-of-documents-provided-by-the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-to-the-nas/comment-page-3/#comment-10923
He seems to be saying that it was understandable that Ivins was going to commit mass murder, because DXER believes the FBI was doing something that was not entirely proper.
Ed
anonymous said
“because DXER believes the FBI was doing something that was not entirely proper.”
Perhaps Lake knows what investigative value the FBI found in testing the intimate apparel they seized from Dr Ivins’ private residence. We already know Lake has fantasies about plastic bags being used to grow anthrax spores. Do his fantasies extend beyond plastic bags to ladies panties?
Ed Lake said
March 13, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Anonymous wrote: “Perhaps Lake knows what investigative value the FBI found in testing the intimate apparel they seized from Dr Ivins’ private residence.”
Whatever the reason, I don’t believe it gave Bruce Ivins license to commit mass murder.
And that’s the issue: Do people here believe that because Ivins had not yet been tried and convicted for his first MASS MURDER, it was okay for him to commit a second MASS MURDER?
When you attack Jean Duley for blowing the whistle on Ivins’ plan for MASS MURDER, what is your reasoning? What is it you are saying? That it would have been okay for Ivins to commit MASS MURDER because you like the guy? And, you don’t like Jean Duley, so everything she does must be wrong?
Ed
DXer